Here is the transcript of my interview with Mike Martz on Wednesday morning.
Q: In 2005 you had heart trouble. What happened? (Martz missed the last 11 games of the season as Rams coach because of an infection on his mitral heart valve.)
A: What I have is a mitral valve prolapse. It's normal, and then every once in a while the valve doesn't do what it's supposed to do, doesn't close properly. What I had, the endocarditis, the bacteria came out of a sinus infection. It is unusual (getting endocarditis from a sinus infection). By far the more usual is from dental work. But I had an infection from a polyp in my nose. I was fortunate. They said afterward, 70 percent of the people don't make it, or you have a heart transplant or a valve replacement. So I was very very fortunate.
Q: You did not have a valve replacement?
A: No, since that time my checkups have been real clear. I'm clean and ready to go.
Q: When you were ill and had infection how did it feel?
A: The chest, at times, you could feel it. I wouldn't say it hurt. It was uncomfortable. What was really significant was the fatigue. And at night my heart would race. They said the bacteria collects on the valve and it gets heavy and the heart strains and it beats faster and it strains and strains. And so I couldn't sleep and yet I was really tired, just wore out all the time.
Q: Whenever I read about you it says you were Summa Cum Laude at Fresno State. It's even in the Niner press book. Why would you include that information?
A: This was in my bio when I was in college. I just never paid any attention to it. When I moved from job to job it just kind of stayed with me. It really is kind of embarrassing. Who cares? When you go into coaching, you try anything you can to fill out your resume. You're the first person that's ever brought it up. I just never thought about it. I'm not trying to perpetuate that. If you look back at my bio in the 70s it's probably there. It's just something that's sat there and I never took out. It's kind of obnoxious. I should get that out. It really is kind of ridiculous to have it in there.
Q: It's not ridiculous. But it's not a coaching credential. It's an academic credential.
A: When I was teaching in college -- I got started as teacher -- so that was the point.
Q: You're coming into an area that had Bill Walsh and that's a big deal. Is your offense sort of like his? Is it different? Is it radically different?
A: There's no question a good part of what we do is very similar just by structure, just by the nature of the routes. The way we teach it, I hope he would be pleased with. I was at many of his practices when I was a young coach in college at Fresno. He was such a stickler on details. Everything had to be perfect. If it wasn't he wouldn't put up with it. When I became the head coach at St. Louis I copied some of the structure of how he practiced and used it with the Rams. I never said that to anybody, but I did. I remembered a lot of things he set up in camp and how he set it up. He had an unbelievable way of projecting the outcome of things with the personnel they had. To me his biggest strength was he had a player and whatever that player was he had a vision of what that player was going to become. Doggone it, he was determined to get that player to that spot. That's a great coach. To me that's what we all try to emulate. We try to create some of the stress on the defense he did with some of those crossing patterns, the timing of the throws, the quickness of the quarterback, the efficiency of what we do. The down-the-field thing is a little different, although they did do that, certainly. We try to do a little bit more of it. The efficiency of the passing game, the fact that when you throw the ball to a back it's like handing him the ball, those kinds of things are consistent.
Q: Did you know Bill?
A: Yeah.
Q: Would you and he chat about football?
A: Oh, yeah. My very first discussion with him was very interesting. I was offensive coordinator at Fresno in 1979. I came over to Santa Clara University (where the 49ers trained in the preseason). I called ahead and asked if I could come to practice. They said, sure. Well, I had to wear a white 49ers T-shirt because he wanted to know who's who. There was no stone unturned. We went to practice. We could stay in a certain area. And they had a room set up for visitors after practice. He came in and sat on a couch. He didn't know me from Adam. He was so gracious about everything. I said, "Coach, how are you going to do?" I think they won three games that first year (actually two). For the next three years he rattled off, it was amazing, exactly what their records would be. He said, "I think we can do this." He didn't bat an eye. The next three years he had it all projected out. He planned the whole thing. It was just amazing. I was kind of stunned that he did that. Most coaches would say, "We'll be a .500 team. And he said, "We'll win three. And then we'll win this and then we'll win the Super Bowl. It's exactly the way it unfolded. He knew his personnel. He looked at his guys and knew it would take them this long to get where they needed to be. He could project talent and then he went about getting them there.
Q: I think Bill thought he knew more than anybody.
A: He probably did. You could call it anything you want. It is what it is. What are you going to do?
Q: Do you have two different personalities. You're very charming, polite, civilized in interviews but today I heard you say on the field, 'Get the (freaking) ball. Don't let it drop. (Martz yelled this at wide receiver Robert Ortiz.) I've heard in meetings with quarterbacks you can be quite direct and blunt. Are there two of you?
A: I'm in camp and this only happens in camp, by the way. I don't do this during the season - then you teach and you coach. But this is football at its highest level. You find a young man off the street that thinks he can make this team. You have got to put pressure on these guys as much as you can and make them deal with it. We don't have time, we only have three weeks. So if this guy has talent, and they all have talent, what you don't know is if they've got enough heart, strength in their character (he makes a fist) to deal with the stress of playing this game at a high level. Otherwise you have a guy who did really well in practice and you get in a game and he kind of disappears on you. I put as much pressure on them as I can and some of them you see them and they're resilient to it and you don't have to mess with them. (Rookie wide receiver) Josh Morgan's an example. I never mess with Josh. But some of these kids they come in here, the learning curve is very short here. We don't have a lot of time and they don't understand it. To get that full knowledge of what they can do - quarterbacks too - you've got to produce fire and then when camp is over I become the teacher I was raised to be. That's something I learned by necessity. You've got to find ways to put the pressure on them. It's not real comfortable for me to do but that's what you have to do.
Q: I think part of what's going on with quarterbacks is putting them under duress. I wish Alex Smith would tell someone to go (screw) himself, tell you to go (screw) yourself. It would be good for him.
A: I'm not sure that reaction is the right reaction. That part is not, but the toughness part, the assertiveness in the situation is what I'm looking for, what I'm always looking for. I'm not specifically talking about Alex. I'm talking about all the players. To get angry - emotion's not what I'm looking for. It's attitude. Emotion, go (screw) yourself, that's not important. I want them to be resilient. If they fail at something, they're resilient enough to bounce back and go out and do it again. Sometimes, it's a tough road. They have to fight their way through it. It's not an easy lesson when things have been going good your whole career - all these guys have been very successful - and the NFL is an elite league of the world. If you want to be the elite of the elite, then there's a certain mental toughness and attitude, if you will, that's required. Without that you can never achieve that level of excellence that you aspire to. It's not that emotion I'm looking for, it's the toughness. Joe Montana's a good example. Joe was a tough guy, assertive. He was very competitive. He wasn't intimidated by anything. He probably thought there wasn't anything he couldn't deal with. And that's what you're looking for. A lot of things can bombard a guy and make him second guess himself. What we're trying to do is make them think I can do this, get out of my way.
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Posted By: Funny (15/08/2008 9:40:12 AM)
Comment: Wow. The Cohn family sure has been busy leaving fake laudatory comments. Good work, everybody!
Posted By: Slim (14/08/2008 11:12:11 AM)
Comment: Matt, many props for printing a peer's work. You continue to differentiate yourself from other writers, now if we could only get one of our qb's to do just that...
Posted By: Andrew from Rishikesh (14/08/2008 9:43:49 AM)
Comment: Thanks for your article Mr. Cohn. I always speculated on the health of Mike Martz and you got right to that matter in the beginning of the article. He may be the best offensive mind today in the NFL. I hope he turns things around and becomes our next head coach.
Posted By: Cal (14/08/2008 6:21:27 AM)
Comment: Someone should send this interview to Alex Smith. Let him know this is the pressure. This is the test. He needs to prove his leadership abilities and win this competition...and confidently lead this team.
Posted By: Rich, DE (14/08/2008 6:05:20 AM)
Comment: I never thought a "go screw yourself" question could be handled with class like that, but it certainly was. Martz represented himself and the 49ers well.
Posted By: Dean (14/08/2008 4:17:54 AM)
Comment: Mr. Cohn, I must admit I have never cared much for your style but I enjoyed this article very much. I like the fact that the answers are left to the coachs and not media opinion, look out Maiocco!
Posted By: ska (14/08/2008 2:07:56 AM)
Comment: Very interesting transcript. Now lets just hope Martz can find some of the toughness he is looking for in the WRs and players they have. I think the jury is still out and if they don't he will eventually find players that do. Unfortunately that just might take longer but they will get there.
Posted By: Montana1 (14/08/2008 1:18:48 AM)
Comment: Great interview. I feel sorry for all the miserable crybabies that just come to these posts to complain. Martz is honoring Walsh and explaining a unique story about Walsh's brilliance and some of you are totally missing it. My guess is that you're miserable. Read it again with your thinking cap on.
All the best,
Joe Montana
Posted By: Nick (14/08/2008 1:15:38 AM)
Comment: Matt,
GREAT MARTZ INTERVIEW!!! BEST EVER!!!
Do you think Martz is starting O'Sullivan to burn a fire under Smith? Possibly have O'Sullivan start, let Smith boil for 3 weeks, then throw him in for a game and see how he does? or is Martz starting O'Sullivan in the pre-season, so when the regular season starts Smith can start on fire?
Posted By: Rick9er (14/08/2008 1:13:05 AM)
Comment: Just by this interview, Martz wants his Qb's to step up and know who wants it more and who has the confidence to do it. I don't see them anointing anyone just yet. Lets see what happens the end of pre-season. We will get a better idea in a few weeks who is deserving to start. Remember mental toughness and the confidence to vision what he wants to do is what Martz is looking for in a QB.
Posted By: Darren (13/08/2008 11:53:39 PM)
Comment: Are you seriously kidding me? This is all garbage, no wonder this team is bad! You got inept reporting that can't ask tough questions like is your job on the line? Are you worried about the fate of the team? Do you have any sellouts? Idiots at their worse! Cohn, do us all a favor and RETIRE! You're nothing but a hack! That was the worse job of jounalism, better hire Lois Lane to do your job!
Posted By: Scott (13/08/2008 11:24:45 PM)
Comment: It feels like I just read a Delillo novel. As it seems from various interviews, Martz has a very odd, yet formal, way speaking.
Posted By: Frank (13/08/2008 10:34:13 PM)
Comment: Nice insight into Mike Martz the man, besides the coach. It reconfirms what I felt when Nolan hired him...that he's the man, he's the guy that will get this offense not just untracked, but thriving again. Some fans are too impatient...they want instant results, and that's just not going to happen. But, with Martz' coaching, the O will round into shape...and when it does, fans will forget all about how inept it's been.
Posted By: Neener (13/08/2008 9:53:59 PM)
Comment: What a superb interview. It really lets us get to know Martz a little better. thank you
Posted By: Erik (13/08/2008 9:34:54 PM)
Comment: Excellent stuff. I've always thought Martz was one of the top few coaches in the game and this is more evidence to support that. It would be nice if our current Head Coach had learned so much from Walsh. Instead, Nolan seems dismissive of Walsh's methods and achievements.
Posted By: niner (13/08/2008 9:34:39 PM)
Comment: martz and kurt warner will win more games, more tds and more first downs then the niners have in the last 4 years.
Posted By: Ryan (13/08/2008 9:33:13 PM)
Comment: Matt,
May I suggest that you only solicit interviews from Mike Martz? He's the only person in all of football that's smart and interesting enough to make me want to read about him and what he thinks.
Don't even bother with the players or *cough* head coach...really!
Posted By: Buzz (S.F.) (13/08/2008 9:11:43 PM)
Comment: Insightful -Coach Martz has the kind of depth and wisdom about his task that we fans have been craving-thanks!
Posted By: oneniner (13/08/2008 8:55:04 PM)
Comment: in a funny way, i kinda feel good about our situation knowing martz is running the show. It is obvious he his trying to toughen up "the franchise boy"......great interview
Posted By: servegmo (Costa Rica) (13/08/2008 8:19:35 PM)
Comment: its great to read about Martsz perspective on all this... I feel really calm about our qb competition... he and coach nolan know what they are doing..
go niners
Posted By: Daryl A. (13/08/2008 7:28:48 PM)
Comment: It's great to be able to listen to what goes on in the mind of a coach. As fans of football, we probably spend too much time watching it, reading about it, arguing about it, thinking about it . . . It's not just the players, but the coaches also, who compell us to super glue our eyes and ears to everything football, basketball, or whatever sports you love. Listening to Martz speak, it's obvious that we too can learn great lessons that transcend sports, and provide us a different, but all the more interesting and inspiring outlook on life. Thanks to Martz, all coaches and coordinators, and to all journalists and newsreports that help us to feel and become just as much a part of the teams we dedicate part of our pride too. Go Niners. Great in '08.
Posted By: Cleveland Mike (13/08/2008 5:57:59 PM)
Comment: Thank You Lowell. It's obvious this guy knows what's what. Just very reassuring. Thank You for sharing. Keep up the great work.
Posted By: mike in MD (13/08/2008 5:53:18 PM)
Comment: That's why we come to your blog Matt. Thanks & also to LC. That was awesome. Loved the part how Martz said he copied many of the ways Bill ran his practices. It's always good to talk about the MASTER. I will forever miss Coach Walsh's attention to detail on Offense. Sheer perfection. There was nobody better. RIP Coach.
Posted By: Indiana Jim (13/08/2008 5:34:13 PM)
Comment: Thanks for that, Lowell. I keep being reassured that this man knows what he is doing. It really puts the quarterback competition in the right light.
Posted By: PD (13/08/2008 5:22:36 PM)
Comment: Great interview. Thank you for sharing. I truly hope he can turn around our team this year.
Posted By: SonocoNinerFan (13/08/2008 5:09:14 PM)
Comment: Thanks Lowell. Great stuff!
Posted By: Simran (13/08/2008 4:57:09 PM)
Comment: Thank you Lowell, very nice read. I miss Mr. Walsh and it was great to hear about him again.
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